Rod Stinson – Pizza Box Formula Review 2016
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This Home Based Business is something very different than many of the others that I have seen, reviewed, bought and succeeded or failed at.
However, it’s not new at all and was around for a few years before it faded with a lot of other internet trends of the time.
Of course, it started a long list of others that wanted to find the same sort of success using the same (or similar) webinar method.
I don’t remember how I ran into this program, but I kept getting enticing emails from a guy named Peter Vlahos who was pushing this program.
I know, you’re probably thinking, “you would look into a cold email program?” but c’mon, it was like, 2013 or something when this was all popular.
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Peter was offering 1 on 1 training and mentor ship if I joined Rod Stinson Pizza Box Formula with him. To get started there are 3 levels:
- First level is $1497.
- Second level is $3497.
- Third level is $6497.
What a price on a cold email, am I right?
Each level comes with more perks, as you can imagine for such a high ticket price, but he claimed he had a 92% success rate. When I spoke to him, he made it clear to me, that he will teach me how to work the Rod Stinson Pizza Box Formula, and he would be available at all times to help me succeed.
I want to make a major point here. Without a coach, mentor or partner, succeeding online or at home is impossible. Every entrepreneur NEEDS someone next to him. He/She needs someone to turn to when they get stuck. Without that, you will be part of 95% of people who fail at a home based business.
Peter Vlahos used to own some pretty large restaurants in the Chicago area, but he wanted to get out and spend time with his family. I think we all feel the same, end the rat race, sit on the beach forever, blah blah blah…
Peter actually did this and sold his restaurants, started using the Rod Stinson Pizza Box Formula and within 30 days made $18,000. Speaking with Peter, he now makes anywhere from 20-30 sales a month. If you look at that and multiply it by the lowest level Rod Stinson offers, it is a pretty hefty month. I was his 26th sale in June of 2013.
What is the Pizza Box Formula?
It is a marketing system and extremely proprietary in the way of showing how to market big ticket items in a world of tiny ticket items. Let me explain this more in depth because without understanding this, you will never make any money online.
Believe me, I am your first example of someone who struggled for years.
Let’s assume you are selling an ebook for $29.99. You worked your butt off to build it, edit it, proofread it and market it. How many sales do you need in order to make $1497? The answer is 50 sales of your eBook to make $1497 profit.
I am assuming you had to pay for something so let’s say your expenses were $250 to get it out to your market. Do you know how many people need to see your offer in order to make 50 sales?
Ok, I’ll give you the answer.
In order to make 50 sales in the online world, you would need to have a mailing list of 5,000 people.
Back then, online marketing like this typically yielded a 1-5% sale rate so, going with the low end, out of 5000 people, 50 will buy.
Of course, this doesn’t include the relationship you have with your list, whether they are a buyers list or a freebee seeker list etc….That 1% could be drastically lower.
How many sales of a $1497 product do you need to make $1497? Exactly, 1!
The same amount of work to make 50 sales yields a lot less work to yield 1 sale for the same profit. Now, at the time I could tell you exactly how much it would be to market that: $240 to make a $1497 sale with Rod Stinson Pizza Box Formula.
When this program was around, he offered 6 different marketing options. I chose postcard marketing. For every 500 postcards I send out – keep in mind this was years ago – I get 10%-20% that call me back and usually 1 sale. It takes me 2 hours to get my postcards ready, another hour or two to talk to the people WHO CALL ME.
STOP! Don’t get so excited please!! Keep reading!
Rod Stinson Dirty Little Secret
Rod Stinson has a Dirty Little Secret, like most of us. Here is the secret. The product is the business opportunity, which doesn’t bother me to much considering most online products are just a ploy to get you to learn how to market their system.
This is the real world and if you ever want to make money online, you will need to come to understand this and learn how to move away from the newbie products and get into the real money making game.
Here is my major issue. Even though I made sales and had some good months, I didn’t feel right about the opportunity and that is why I stopped promoting the Pizza Box Formula way back when.
I wasn’t looking to have to pick up the phone when someone calls, and I sure as hell hated putting stamps on the damn postcards. HAHA
Yes, we all need to understand it takes a lot of work to make money online, but leveraging the internet needs to be an asset to a program.
Putting stamps and names on postcards and sending them to people who have to then do exactly what you are doing is slightly misleading.
Almost like it was the age of MLMs, huh?
To some, this works great and more power to them. I had success with this, but as I graduated from this type of HBB, I learned what it really takes to make a great income online.
Years later, after floundering and looking for something to do, I finally got out of the game of marketing for someone else and started my own agency with the help of Local Marketing Vault.
If you’re curious and want to check out the free demo, click the button below to learn more.
To all of our success.
Elliot
I buy and review courses so you don’t have to. Sometimes, I even find courses that are legitimate and worthwhile; and that’s how I accidentally came across one that led me to building a 6-figure business in a little under 5 years. Now, I still review courses because it’s my favorite hobby. 🙂 Learn more about me here.
Hi James, I’m so glad to have found you’re review on this. Someone by the name of Luke Sutton had between e mailing first really about domination then this came. I told him I’m a single mom on disability and don’t have much to invest at all. He kept e mailing that he’d give all the support possible etc. When reading this it sounded awfully similar . I need a real person and real help. I know I can be successful but also I’m aware I need someone too show me the path, someone to model who is successful. He claims he’s making over 5 figures monthly and had been fire years. I feel like he may be involved with to many things telling new each one is the best and I’ll make money within the first month. I start till get angry because I’m in such a desperate way I want to believe it, thankfully I’m a bright person and know better. Again Odd like to thank you for writing with total class. You sound like a real person and I appreciate that. Would love to connect with you about possibilities. Keep up the good work. It is much needed!! 🙂
Wow I was just about to buy the $1497 program from Peter (who does seem very sincere) when I came across your post.
First off I am truly a newbie but NOT a newbie in sales for I have a history of great accomplishments in selling “honestly” and nationally to all levels of people. Hard work is my motto and the quick buck is not my agenda but rather a sustainable business that will afford my needs as my sales profession was done away with from our “great” bought and paid for politicians.
Now what interested me in Peter was his apparent willingness to get me going, supposed high success rate for those who follow directions (btw that is how I learned sales in the past), and the transferable aspects of that to others since its VERY important to me that what I am selling is of value to others.
Now I understand that my break into this form of sales will come with new lessons as does everything in life but what am I missing in the program shortcomings compared to other opportunities? Like yourself the number of mistakes I have made far exceed the number of successes and the words of others who have made failures has helped me limit the losses…. 🙂
lol sorry Joyce I approved this twice….oops!
Thanks James. This information was really informative about Empower Network. It’s funny how I found your blog. I was contacted by Peter V about the secret formula webinar and decided to do some research online to hear what people are saying about it. I’ve heard good things but I’m not totally sold on it yet. I love the potential of how much money that can be made but not with the phone calls and mailings. Also, about a week ago I spoke with someone that’s with Empower Network so I feel like I did a full circle. Maybe this is a sign for me, I don’t know yet. But I love how you explained the importance of finding a good team and leader to help newbies be successful. With all of the ups and downs I’ve experienced with MLM I’m really surprised I’m still hanging in there. But I have big dreams and a lot of a faith. I love how you write your blogs. They are really easy reading.
Thanks James. This information was really informative about Empower Network. It’s funny how I found your blog. I was contacted by Peter V about the secret formula webinar and decided to do some research online to hear what people are saying about it. I’ve heard good things but I’m not totally sold on it yet. I love the potential of how much money that can be made but not with the phone calls and mailings. Also, about a week ago I spoke with someone that’s with Empower Network so I feel like I did a full circle. Maybe this is a sign for me, I don’t know yet. But I love how you explained the importance of finding a good team and leader to help newbies be successful. With all of the ups and downs I’ve experienced with MLM I’m really surprised I’m still hanging in there. But I have big dreams and a lot of a faith. I love how you write your blogs. They are really easy reading.
Hi Joyce..Thank you for such kind words. In a world of so many opportunities I’m glad I can try and reach as many people as possible to let them know there are REAL ways for people to reach their dreams. About Peter Vlahos and the pizza box formula…Peter is a great guy and I have nothing bad to say about him at all, however the pizza box formula was not my cup of tea…I always wanted to be an internet marketer and this is not internet marketing at all. This is a direct sales opportunity where you send postcards to people that have to pay to get the same ability to do the same thing you do. (direct sales, sending postcards) If you read my post about the internet marketing Rabbit Hold, you will understand what I mean.
This holds true for direct sales too. Empower Network has totally taught me everything I ever wondered about internet marketing…like EVERYTHING, and I feel totally confident and comfortable talking about that. Picking a team is 100% crucial to anyone’s success not just the newbie. (although it is even more important for a newbie to pick the right sponsor) With me, you will get access to my mentor and I will tell you, he taught me everything I needed to know and so much more. I truly hope you settle your feet somewhere, but I definitely recommend you settle your feet with someone who is willing to give you support. Again, thank you so much for the kind words…